Who Knows?
Favorite friend Beth rented The God That Wasn’t There which made me want to rant for hours, days, weeks.
I know. Beth rocks.
The film explores four decades between Jesus’ death and when the gospels were written. The director also talks about Saul/Paul’s break with Judaism to found a new religion. Curious because Paul never met Jesus and only writes about three aspects of his savior’s life: death, resurrection and ascension. Either Paul was clueless about Jesus’ formative years or those formative years simply weren’t important. The director suggested that Paul considered Jesus a mythological figure instead of a real man.
Several characteristics have been used for thousands of years when writing about literary or mythological “saviors”. These include a virgin birth, dying and rising on the third day, sitting at the right hand of the father…there are plenty more. Jesus shares many of these traits. This implies that the writers of the Gospels understood a popular genre and used it to sell their own stories. What other explanation is there?
Several experts talked about their dismay when first discovering folklore similarities and inconsistencies within the Bible itself. Several came to the conclusion, rightfully so, that events like the Inquisition were not a gross misinterpretation of church doctrine like modern mainstream Christians insist. Even modern crusaders who call for the death of homosexuals are acting in a matter consistent with their faith.
Playing devil’s advocate, I pointed out that there are many passages in the Bible calling for love and understanding. This doesn’t prove the other passages wrong; just that those who literally interpret the Good Book are, for lack of a better word, insane.
Such experts, like the director, became dismayed and lost their faith. One professor, however, said that he recently began attending a Methodist church again. He appreciates the lessons learned in such parables and stories. He just no longer believes they actually happened.
The Torah is a collection of stories that chronicle an interpretation of how my religion and its people began. The Talmud is an extension and explores arguments from people trying to come to grips with what can be a confusing and contradictory book. I never took the stories as fact and, as a result, do not find fault with a man who suggests the same of the New Testament. Wow, though, don’t Christians freak out at the very thought that evidence might suggest anything other than what they were taught in Sunday school as a kid.
At the end of the movie, I posed this question to Beth: If you discovered evidence that proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Jesus did not exist or, at the very least, that his story was exaggerated – would you reveal such evidence?
As much as I appreciate history and value the separation of fact from fiction, I would keep such a discovery to myself. The majority of our born again neighbors become so for a reason. Many millions do right because they are afraid of punishment from God. They acknowledge Christ and his laws because they don’t want to fry in a lake of fire. I appreciate the way Christianity brought monotheism to a previously barbaric world and wouldn’t want to go back. Thanks anyway.
4 Comments:
Yet another example as to why Democrats will not regain the South. Your commentary on Christianity on this date and in the past show your disdain for your former "faith". You now treat Christianity as though it were some form of witchcraft.
In the words of the infamous Kinky Friedman, "they ain't making Jews like Jesus no more".
Kate- Thomas Jefferson wrote, in a note to a nephew, "Fix Reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than of blindfolded fear. ... Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its consequences. If it end in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue in the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise and in the love of others which it will procure for you" Jefferson re-compiled the bible using the King James version and focusing on the moral teachings of Jesus, since he didn't believe in his divinity. (Not an uncommon stance among the founding fathers.) My point, and I do have one, is that it wouldn't matter if you had irrefutable scientific evidence that Jesus did not exist, or if he did that he wasn't divine, because the faithful will go on believing. I mean you're good, but if TJ couldn't sway them, come on.
Anonymous-I don't think Kinky's notoriety rises to the level of infamy. Were I a Texas voter he'd be my choice for gov. With a motto like "How hard could it be?" post GW's tenure in that office, who could resist?
Okay, first of all Anon - that Kinky Friedman quote made me pee my pants. I'd like to meet that b*tch. And there's no disdain, my friend. Much love for Christian peeps - as my family makes up a great deal of that particular population. I don't have to agree with an argument to find it compelling. For or against.
PT - As always you make a good point. I don't believe that God will hold our questioning, our thinking against us. We see God most often as we see ourselves. Those who see him as vengeful are among the least forgiving and most judgemental people out there. I see him as a foxy dude with a wicked sense of humor and appreciation for thought-provoking dialogue. Go figure.
Oy. I LOVE THIS POST.
Totally, totally thought-provoking.
And, for the record, the song (and album) is:
"They Ain't Making Jews Like Jesus Anymore."
Semantics, I know. And I'm a Semitic. Go figger.
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