Which Republican Blows the Most?
Representative Mark Foley
Senator Larry Craig
State Treasurer Thomas Ravener
Senator David Vitter
Too many to choose
Who am I forgetting? Who's the worst?
I know. They all suck.
posted by kate @ 9:32 AM
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32 Comments:
I would go with Ted Kennedy. Nothing like killing someone and then waiting 10 hours to call the police.
Oh, nothing smoke and mirrors to distract the talking point, eh rich?
"It was Bill Clinton's fault 9-11 happened! (even though the republican congress is the one responsible for with-holding terror funds and poo-pooing the idea Bin Laden was a threat... Oh, and Bush dismissing dire warnings and taking extended vacation time...)"
Kate said specifically which Republican -- note that, not "politician", Republican -- Blows (and we're talking sexually) the most.
But I digress. Smoke and mirrors, Rich, smoke and mirrors. The "SS GOP-PERMANDENT MAJORITY" is a disaster and trying to bring up something else is just distracting from the situation.
Ummmm ..... huh?
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Springs school bans tag, citing conflicts
The Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 08/29/2007 11:30:44 AM MDT
COLORADO SPRINGS —An elementary school has banned tag on its playground after some children complained they were harassed or chased against their will.
"It causes a lot of conflict on the playground," said Cindy Fesgen, assistant principal of the Discovery Canyon Campus school.
Running games are still allowed as long as students don't chase each other, she said.
Fesgen said two parents complained to her about the ban but most parents and children didn't object.
In 2005, two elementary schools in the nearby Falcon School District did away with tag and similar games in favor of alternatives with less physical contact. School officials said the move encouraged more students to play games and helped reduce playground squabbles
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at least the children are still allowed to run ... although that may change, some parents worry that running may cause their children to lose their protective layer of buritto-fat ...
arg.
If we mention Ted Kennedy, then I'll go with Laura Bush who also killed her partner in a car accident.
I'm not sure which one is the worst, but I think this latest homosexual guy is by far the best story.
The details of the police report on the smokinggun.com are creepy and hilarious.
Not only is he a Senator up for reelection but he was also on Romney's presidential campaign.
This is where I get so conflicted. Where is that mirror I must look at to make this stuff up. I am not sure if I should bash/defend car's :were any of the killers driving an SUV or a Prius; men or women: only one woman mentioned in this gang, therefore are men more likely to do bad things, and if so, then apply the nature/nurture test to gain insight?
And I was sure that "Springs school bans tag" was going to be about some clothing appendage that identified a particular group -Since it was in Colorado, what could possibly a tag signify?
someone is comparing a drunken senator who drove off a bridge killing the occupant and didn't report it until the next day with a 17 year old girl who ran a stop sign?
Republican, Democrat, does it really matter. They are generally scum bags.
Um, the only reason the 17 year old girl comparison was made was to point out the ridiculousness of the Ted Kennedy to the latest round of Republican scandals comparison.
If you're looking at the latest bunch of neocon-nincompoops and the best you can do is pull Ted Kennedy out yer ass.
Well.
Okay.
Good luck with that.
It took a while, but I gave up counting and searching. I could not find the bash conservative or boycott conservative website, but I am sure their must be one.
But I agree with who ever said they are all scum bags.
http://boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm
oops =there
editing is so humbling
Here is a good version of boycott conservatism:
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/18/scandal/index_np.html?pn=1
Barney Frank loves to blow!!!
Florida State Representative Bob Allen. Offered an undercover cop $20 to give the cop a blow job. Yes, you read that correctly.
>>If you're looking at the latest bunch of neocon-nincompoops and the best you can do is pull Ted Kennedy out yer ass.
Well.
Okay.
Good luck with that.<<
Mary Jo Kopechne was not available for comment.
I find it interesting that liberals, who otherwise could care less about the law, suddenly discover it when it comes to pushing their agenda. For instance in this case, the correct liberal answer would have been that this was a matter of his private life and has nothing to do with his public service. But, like I said, that would be the correct liberal stance to take. At least that was the argument 10 years ago. But then again that was one of your own, so that was different, they're allowed to commit perjury and obstruct justice and all sorts of things and get away with it. These are the same type of people who consider the CIA to be a death squad for the gov't and who believe anything that would happen to it that would disable it would be a good thing, but when incidents can be used to further their agenda and try and damage an administration, then all bets are off. With liberals, the ends justify the means.
But, liberalism is emotion based, and it's whole directive is the accumulation of power in order to control people lives, so I'm not surprised.
I'd like to reciprocate by nominating some Dirty Democrats who have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar among other places:
Barney Frank
William Jefferson (Democrat-Louisiana)
Ted Kennedy
Dianne Feinstein
Hillary Clinton
Harry Reid
People who live in glass houses...........
You need to clean up your own before you start looking at others.
Once again rw is an assbag and just don't git nuttin'.
It's not about who did what with who, where, when, or in what position. It's about supporting a viciously oppressive pathological agenda that completely contradicts their personal lifestyle. It's about being a complete f'in hypocrite annnnnd gettin' called out on it thennnnn being a complete f'in liar annnnnd a ridiculously bad one at that.
Spare me the standard Clinton crap, he never forced any morality down anyones throat. I love it when my words do double duty. Ooops, there I go again.
>>You need to clean up your own before you start looking at others.<<
You really think they'll ever look in the mirror? I agree with you it's what they need to do, but it isn't going to happen. That's doesn't fit the template, and they aren't going to stray from the template.
I think I am getting the message.
It's not about the act.
It is about one's proclaimed stance on any given issue.
So if I don't proclaim to denounce - and here we would insert, no, rather, write in my/your choice of action,belief, mores, religious beliefs, etc., etc. - then if I perform, commit or engage in any of the same, I am free from criticism.?
Ok - this is my statement and question. Unleash the hounds.
Hopefully I can explain with minimal sarcasm. When someone preaches and/or uses " traditional family values" issues to get elected - and then gets busted in an activity that is clearly NOT showing traditional family values - well...it's fair to point out the hypocrisy. It's fair to say, "Hey look - you're kind of a phoney."
RW and the like respond with a slightly less mature game of "I know you are but what am I?"
See, breaks down like this, most of us try to live our lives in accordance with some kind of "family values." But I believe the politicians who want to preach, judge, and turn back the clocks are suspect.
Those of us who really try to live good lives don't try to politicize it. I don't hate and judge and point fingers. Because we're all human. And make mistakes. And so I'm much more willing to forgive someone his or her transgressions if they themselves are willing to forgive others their transgressions.
Lots of Dems have a live and let live policy that I can get behind. That's all.
I think we got it goin' on girl.
Me:"It is about one's proclaimed stance on any given issue" = You:"When someone preaches and/or uses " traditional family values" issues to get elected"
Me:"So if I don't proclaim to denounce" = You:"I don't hate and judge and point fingers.
Me:"I am free from criticism.?"
= You: "And so I'm much more willing to forgive someone his or her transgressions "
Word to our mothers!!
I think we got it goin' on girl.
Me:"It is about one's proclaimed stance on any given issue" = You:"When someone preaches and/or uses " traditional family values" issues to get elected"
Me:"So if I don't proclaim to denounce" = You:"I don't hate and judge and point fingers.
Me:"I am free from criticism.?"
= You: "And so I'm much more willing to forgive someone his or her transgressions "
Word to our mothers!!
ooopps - not meant to be a double entendre' -or else I have a really quick refrectory stage.
Not sure how to answer your question, but being graced by your "not quite the same...but okay." beats the hell out this:
WMD - Do you stand in front of a mirror and dry run this material? I am hard press to think anyone could sincerely buy your attempt at verbal slight of hand. As to the question which you presented- the second paragraph of your second post.
I have gifted you with my presence long enough, but before I go, one suggestion - consider changing your handle. When one calls themself the "WMD of Debate" readers might actually be lead to believe that you possess some hint of a skillset in argumetative writing and/or speech.
>>RW and the like respond with a slightly less mature game of "I know you are but what am I?"<<
I fully realize that getting called out on pointing fingers at the opposition when your own party has the same type of issues if not worse isn't something you like to face, but it still needs to be done. You play a childish game of "Gotcha" when it's the other team and "Cover-up" when it's your own and people are going to notice. They already have. That's why the term "liberal" has turned into a label to be avoided in the past 30 years, because it was obvious libs have a "do as we say not as we do" attitude, and liberals have no one to blame but themselves.
For me, someone does something that violates the law and they should pay the price. I start seeing you blog on Dems that get caught with their hands in the cookie jar and maybe I'll reconsider. But I highly doubt I have to worry about you shining a spotlight on the sins of your own party. These same people had been liberal Dems and I would expect the excuses and rationalizations to start flying. Like I said, pointing out the bad apples on your own team isn't part of the playbook, and there isn't any way in hell you're going to deviate from the playbook. Problem is everyone already knows what's in the playbook because it only contains one play.
Strawman shit, rw. Pretty damn weak for the self proclaimed master of all intellect and debate. No ones playing gotcha except you. Where are the dem scandals you speak of that equate with this level of absolutely obvious hypocrisy? . In the here and now, rw, who ya got??? Please spare us the Grok cheated of Erok club bashing incident of 12,324 BC. You still refuse to acknowlegde it, the rank hypocrisy. So let it be known that rw the republican with no "agenda" supports the gay republican, religious right ,family values schill. Nothing to see here, move along people. Make room for the 30%'ers of the next 30 years.
Since we are in the big leagues, I didn’t want to have to post the below list of individuals and their circumstances on this space, but it appears it may be necessary to have everything out on the table for all to see at the same time. I personally do not care about the individuals on either side. What I am interested in is the process of the debate.
It appears to me that a “conservative” wants to debate an action, while a “liberal” wants to debate the nuances associated with the action. Hypocrisy seems to be the prevalent nuance. Challenge my logic on the following:
This is Me and Kate saying the same thing differently logically:
Me:"It is about one's proclaimed stance on any given issue" = You:"When someone preaches and/or uses " traditional family values" issues to get elected"
Me:"So if I don't proclaim to denounce" = You:"I don't hate and judge and point fingers.
Me:"I am free from criticism.?"
= You: "And so I'm much more willing to forgive someone his or her transgressions
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This is me making a statement of logic:
“I think I am getting the message.
It is not about the act, it is about the sexual orientation.
If straight man does x - we do y
If gay man does x - we do z
If by-sexual man does x - we look in mirror and face our conflict.” (this is flippant)
Again, I frankly don’t care about these people, but without the data, I don’t think I could get anyone to engage in my above interest.
William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate
Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.
Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.
DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.
Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.
Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.
James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictmen
Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.
Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..
Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.
Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.
Melvin Jay Reynolds - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.
Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.
George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.
Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.
John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator
Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.
Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.
Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.
Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison
Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.
John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison
Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.
Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.
Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.
Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.
Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.
Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.
Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.
Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.
Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison.
Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.
David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
Gary Siplin - Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy.
Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.
Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.
Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.
Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.
James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.
John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.
Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.
David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.
John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine
Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.
Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.
Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute
Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.
Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.
David Lee Walters - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1991 to 1995. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation.
James Guy Tucker, Jr. - Democrat - Governor of Arkansas from 1992 to 1996. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation.
Walter Rayford Tucker - Democrat - Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.
William McCuen - Democrat - Secretary of State of Arkansas from 1985 to 1995. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison.
Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.
Carroll Hubbard, Jr. - Democrat - Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to three years in prison.
Joseph Kolter - Democrat - member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty.
Webster Hubbell - Democrat - Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges - sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.
Carl Christopher Perkins - Democrat - Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.
Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.
Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.
Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use
Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.
Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.
Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.
Daniel Flood - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation.
Otto Kerner, Jr - Democrat - Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000.
George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.
Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury
Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fundraiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses.
Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.
Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion.
Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.
Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking.
I should have presented the complete conversation in the above post.
Kate:Being bothered in a rest room is a different story. This is illegal behavior - soliciting sex is such a way - so have the perv arrested. In this day and age, advocating violence against any gay man is irresponsible. Because it happens too often.
Me:
“I think I am getting the message.
It is not about the act, it is about the sexual orientation.
If straight man does x - we do y
If gay man does x - we do z
If by-sexual man does x - we look in mirror and face our conflict.” (this is flippant)
That's not argument and intellect. That's cutting and pasting. It's getting easier to see how you beat out yourself for that crown you wear?
Maybe too much information at once.
We will just use one.
Compare what I said in a previous post to what Kate said in a previous post, and tell me how are they the same or different.
Me:"It is about one's proclaimed stance on any given issue" = You:"When someone preaches and/or uses " traditional family values" issues to get elected"
Me:"So if I don't proclaim to denounce" = You:"I don't hate and judge and point fingers.
Me:"I am free from criticism.?"
= You: "And so I'm much more willing to forgive someone his or her transgressions "
8/31/2007 4:37 PM
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