Monday, January 28, 2008

Fun Conversations With Co-Workers - "Back When Women Knew Their Place" Edition


"The surge is working," said Co-Worker #1.

"I'm in the middle of something and don't have time for your nonsense," I said.

"The surge is working," he repeated. "Does that bother you?"

"The surge is not working," I said. "Violence has been reduced because the other side is waiting us out. When we leave, sooner hopefully rather than later, the place will be a complete mess and then eventually we'll have three states over there. But they've got to figure it out. Not us. Now run along. I've got minds to mold."

"You know what I think?" he said.

Co-Worker #1 doesn't listen to me. On any level.

"I think," he continued, "that this world of ours is in a downward spiral, morally, and nothing is going to fix it."

I waited, expecting to hear, "...except the light of the Lord."

But Co-Worker #1 wasn't espousing religious dogma that day. Co-Worker #1 had a bit of the blues. But since he's so completely full of sh*t, I decided to engage.

"As a society, I don't think we're getting worse," I said. "There is plenty of room for improvement, but we're getting better as a people - morally speaking."

"We are not!" Co-Worker #1 said. "We're getting worse."

"Okay," I said. "When were we better than today?"

"Well, let's go back to a time when there wasn't the kind of crime we see today, women were respectable, music wasn't deplorable-"

"The 1950s?" I asked. "You're complaining about rap music and low-rise jeans while romanticizing the decade when black children couldn't go to school with white children? Blacks were made to sit at the back of the bus, use separate bathrooms? Legally. That kind of thing?"

Co-Worker #1 shook his head and said,

"Fine, let's go back further."

"When those same people were lynched for trying to vote? Or should we go back to the time when immigrant children were forced to work in unsafe factories rather than go to school."

"Ummm -"

"Or even further back when slavery was legal, before that when children were made to fight in wars and or do you long for the time when strong-willed women like me were burned at the stake?"

"That doesn't sound so bad."

"Those were the days right? For white men like you, I mean."

(Long pause while Co-Worker #1 prayed for something to fall on me.) I started to sing,

"'Cause the good old days weren't always good and tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems..."

Co-Worker #1 looked at a student and sighed, wearily,

"History teachers are fun."

9 Comments:

At 1/28/2008, Blogger calebism said...

You know, back before “scientists” took over everything, with all their “evolution” and “theories” and whatnot, uppity women got taken out while birthin' babies, most of the time. Hemorrhage and infection are just Jesus's way of saying, “shut up and keep your knees together, be-otch.”. God, I miss smallpox and famine... if it was good enough for Indians and Irish whiners, it sure as hell would work on them pesky Palestinians. And don't get me started on the the Black Death... good times...

 
At 1/28/2008, Blogger beajerry said...

Come on, you can't fool me.
You know you want that hairdo, that dress...

 
At 1/28/2008, Blogger Jeff said...

Actually, the surge is working. People from my neighborhood who just got back from serving 18 months in Iraq can't believe what they're seeing either.

Are the bad guys relocating? Yeah. They always will. But the surge did what it was supposed to do, which was to uproot them.

That said, I think it would have worked a lot sooner if we had worn the June Cleaver getup over the Kevlar.

 
At 1/28/2008, Blogger Not a Granny said...

back when women were considered "property" of the man?

 
At 1/28/2008, Blogger kate said...

Wow. I didn't realize there was room in the budget for Kevlar. My bad. Things *are* looking up.

 
At 1/28/2008, Blogger calebism said...

To conclude that, in this instance, "the surge is working" on the basis of statements made by some returning soldiers in your hood employs this common logical fallacy:
Anecdotal evidence
One of the simplest fallacies is to rely on anecdotal evidence. For example:
"There's abundant proof that God exists and is still performing miracles today. Just last week I read about a girl who was dying of cancer. Her whole family went to church and prayed for her, and she was cured."
It's quite valid to use personal experience to illustrate a point; but such anecdotes don't actually prove anything to anyone. Your friend may say he met Elvis in the supermarket, but those who haven't had the same experience will require more than your friend's anecdotal evidence to convince them.
Anecdotal evidence can seem very compelling, especially if the audience wants to believe it. This is part of the explanation for urban legends; stories which are verifiably false have been known to circulate as anecdotes for years.

Stolen is from infidels.org

 
At 1/28/2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The surge was billed quite specifically on political reconciliation. They can't even agree on a damn flag.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/rally-round-flag-by-dday-this-may-be.html


Guess we just need six more months and 70 billion and they'll all be home.

Lucy.
Football.

 
At 1/28/2008, Blogger Mr. Matt said...

Tiny, excellent, Lucy, Football, I like that.

Here'a another, "What about the kids today?"

"Shoot, I lived through the 1920's the kids today aint nothing!" 1994, Virginia Yowell Stewart Blackford Stewart Knowles. My Grandmother just before her 90th birthday. Yeah, the good old days, no divorce, no crime, you tell 'em Al, Aldolf, Darius, and on

 
At 1/28/2008, Blogger superdave524 said...

So, Darius Rucker was Xerxes' son?

 

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